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's job. and feel free to drive that wedge between the truth and what mr. ryan has to say. >> jennifer: i think there are a lot of wedges or air that can be exposed between, for example, paul ryan and mitt romney. paul ryan's budget, huge opportunity, and of course the lies that paul ryan himself has uttered like in his convention speech. biden is not going to sit back and take that i assume. >> no, i don't think so. and i think people will be watching for daylight between paul ryan and mitt romney. paul ryan not wanting to drag his own career down with this guy who has been kind of on the losingen of the stick. we saw that happen with mccain and palin, right. somebody wanting to make their own career at the expense of someone else's. but joe biden is a thoughtful man, an experienced leader and he is committed to his partner in this, president obama. here is the other thing, joe biden is a heck of a story teller. his gaffes come with a lot of affection, because they are usually in the telling of a really important human story. >> jennifer: i agree with you. but do yo
that obama had a bad debate, didn't do what he was supposed to do but mr. romney lied. >> bill: you are absolutely right. again, i compared romney's debate performance to the ryan speech in tampa. it was a good performance but it was packed with lies. i think the entire media was focusing on stage craft and performance or entertainment or acting ability and not on the substance of what they said. on the substance of what he said mitt romney simply did not tell the truth about the $5 million, about health care, about a whole lot of stuff. kevin in chicago, kevin getting rid of big bird good idea? >> caller: yeah, my granddaughter is four years old, so i'm ul up to speed on big bird. and it brings back memories of when my kids were young. >> bill: same here. >> caller: it is just an example of the crap that comes out of his mouth. they don't realize the value of putting something on tv for the kids to watch -- >> bill: and learn, yeah. >> caller: and the whole industry that has spawned off of it of the kids toy, and everything -- >> bill: you got it. big bird is a
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